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#22
Boom tish...
#23
Ancient and Medieval History / Re: The 7 greatest generals
Last post by Keraunos - Mar 07, 2026, 11:05 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on Mar 07, 2026, 07:26 PM
Quote from: Imperial Dave on Mar 07, 2026, 07:24 PMAlthough some would have his approach to fighting Hastings as genius

Others would say he rode his luck.

While others might say he rode his horse  ;D
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Ancient and Medieval History / Re: The 7 greatest generals
Last post by Erpingham - Mar 07, 2026, 07:26 PM
Quote from: Imperial Dave on Mar 07, 2026, 07:24 PMAlthough some would have his approach to fighting Hastings as genius

Others would say he rode his luck.
#25
Although some would have his approach to fighting Hastings as genius
#26
Ancient and Medieval History / Re: The 7 greatest generals
Last post by Erpingham - Mar 07, 2026, 07:21 PM
To return to the author's definition

"Since victory on the battlefield does not guarantee long-term success, the true mark of greatness for a general is to achieve success in wars and campaigns that make a lasting impact on the history of the world."

IMO, making lasting impacts is statecraft not generalship. For example, using his definition, you'd have to rate William the Conquerer as a great general, as his kingship was transformational and the effects remain with us today. Yet, in truth, his battlefield performance was no better than OK i.e. he won.
#27
Or my favourite Eumenes...although he wasn't that great but I still find him fascinating
#28
Ancient and Medieval History / Re: The 7 greatest generals
Last post by Ian61 - Mar 07, 2026, 06:48 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on Mar 07, 2026, 12:36 PMI'm a bit wary of generalship being a combination of military prowess and statesmanship. Especially as he doesn't apply it consistently.

Indeed rules out Phyrrus who was clearly a talented battlefield general but couldn't carry that through.
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Ancient and Medieval History / Re: The 7 greatest generals
Last post by gavindbm - Mar 07, 2026, 01:28 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on Mar 07, 2026, 10:18 AM
Quote from: gavindbm on Mar 07, 2026, 09:37 AMOne features of generalship that I feel is often overlooked is how well you grow your subordinates into being good generals.  This could be one of Caesar's failings..

That might bump Alexander towards the very top

I was tempted to mention Alexander the Great but was too reticent.
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Ancient and Medieval History / Re: The 7 greatest generals
Last post by Erpingham - Mar 07, 2026, 12:36 PM
I'm a bit wary of generalship being a combination of military prowess and statesmanship. Especially as he doesn't apply it consistently.