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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: DBS on Sep 04, 2025, 06:31 AM

Title: St Mark's lion actually Chinese
Post by: DBS on Sep 04, 2025, 06:31 AM
Story in the Guardian, but link below is to the Antiquity article.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/chinese-identity-of-st-marks-bronze-lion-and-its-place-in-the-history-of-medieval-venice/70176EBEF6C480FA4246DC2F189D1F9B

My only question is that the lion seems a tad large to have been brought back via the Silk Road by Marco Polo's father and uncle.  Sea route, yes.  Stuck on the back of a Bactrian camel...  hmmm.
Title: Re: St Mark's lion actually Chinese
Post by: Ian61 on Sep 04, 2025, 07:05 AM
Good find. Very interesting read.
Well it certainly seems to have been bashed about a bit.
Whilst I am generally a fan of isotopes problems occur once you start modifying things and mixing up as you would for this type of metal and in so many different phases. However it certainly seems as if it is from much further East than Venice, the Polo family is however a bit of a magnate for anything oriental seeming from this area.
Title: Re: St Mark's lion actually Chinese
Post by: Keraunos on Sep 04, 2025, 11:03 AM
Seems like everything, everywhere all at once is Chinese  :-\
Title: Re: St Mark's lion actually Chinese
Post by: Jim Webster on Sep 04, 2025, 11:21 AM
Certainly I think we can say that some of the metal is probably Chinese.
Title: Re: St Mark's lion actually Chinese
Post by: Cantabrigian on Sep 04, 2025, 12:07 PM
The thing that puzzles me, is why did they bother?

There would be no point in importing bronze all that distance because it was available locally. 

It would be even more difficult to transport a completed statue.  And it wasn't even a statue they liked - they hacked it around quite a bit before installing it.

It all sounds a bit strange.  You'll be telling me that the Stonehenge builders imported stones from deepest Wales next.
Title: Re: St Mark's lion actually Chinese
Post by: DBS on Sep 04, 2025, 02:16 PM
The real question should be whether any Cornish tin, to make it one of Dave's Celtic dragons...