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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on Aug 09, 2025, 05:46 PM

Title: Roman sun hat
Post by: Imperial Dave on Aug 09, 2025, 05:46 PM
Bolton Museum displays rare Roman sun hat following restoration - BBC News https://share.google/kRdzykuc91rBXBz9f

Very interesting although could it double as a helmet liner too?
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Keraunos on Aug 10, 2025, 01:19 AM
That is interesting - and remarkable that it has survived.  Looks like a Boeotian helmet in shape.  I wonder if, like Englishmen, they went out in the midday sun?
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: DBS on Aug 15, 2025, 10:33 AM
I wonder on what basis they assume Roman rather than Ptolomaic?  Very specific provenance?
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Nick Harbud on Aug 15, 2025, 12:48 PM
You mean that in ancient times the sun actually shone in Bolton?   

 :P
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Imperial Dave on Aug 15, 2025, 12:59 PM
steady on sir....
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Erpingham on Aug 15, 2025, 01:53 PM
Quote from: DBS on Aug 15, 2025, 10:33 AMI wonder on what basis they assume Roman rather than Ptolomaic?  Very specific provenance?

The catalogue entry is here https://boltonsegypt.co.uk/object/ancient-egyptian-textile-fragment-from-illahun-dated-ad-395-642-6/

Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: DBS on Aug 15, 2025, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on Aug 15, 2025, 01:53 PM
Quote from: DBS on Aug 15, 2025, 10:33 AMI wonder on what basis they assume Roman rather than Ptolomaic?  Very specific provenance?

The catalogue entry is here https://boltonsegypt.co.uk/object/ancient-egyptian-textile-fragment-from-illahun-dated-ad-395-642-6/



So that suggests a very late fourth to mid seventh century AD date, yet the Beeb quotes the museum as reckoning 30BC...  :o

Bless.
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: DBS on Aug 15, 2025, 08:27 PM
Just realised - given the range extends to seventh century AD, could it be a Sasanian sun hat?   8)
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Duncan Head on Aug 15, 2025, 09:24 PM
There's a very similar hat in Sumner's Roman Military Dress, also from Egypt.
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Duncan Head on Aug 20, 2025, 12:02 PM
The Textiles and War book that Adrian Nayler just linked to - free download from https://www.archaeopress.com/Archaeopress/Products/9781805830801 - mentions Romano-Egyptian felt hats as possible helmet liners on pp.43-45. However the Bolton example does seem to have a more prominent brim than any of these.
Title: Re: Roman sun hat
Post by: Imperial Dave on Aug 20, 2025, 02:18 PM
I did wonder as alluded to whether its just a helmet liner that has a dual purpose...