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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Nick Harbud on Aug 12, 2022, 10:54 AM

Title: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Nick Harbud on Aug 12, 2022, 10:54 AM
I just found this little pcture on the BBC website.  A view of the Roman camp Aquis Querquennis, located on the banks of the Limia river in the As Conchas reservoir, in Ourense, Spain. The camp is usually submerged but is exposed due to the low water level.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/065B/production/_126272610_shutterstock_editorial_13080897b.jpg.webp)

It is an ill drought that brings nobody any good....

...BTW, UK wine growers are expecting a vintage year.  If this sort of climate persists, one can apparently expect places as far north as Edinburgh to become centres of viniculture.

Cheers!   :)

Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Imperial Dave on Aug 12, 2022, 11:29 AM
thats a fabulous site
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Erpingham on Aug 12, 2022, 11:47 AM
Trip advisor has lots of visitor photos that show it in its semi-submerged state

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g777801-d5113982-Reviews-Aquis_Querquennis-Bande_Province_of_Ourense_Galicia.html#/media-atf/5113982/249869724:p/?albumid=-160&type=0&category=-160
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Imperial Dave on Aug 12, 2022, 12:46 PM
looks like a top place to visit
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Jim Webster on Aug 13, 2022, 02:40 PM
Looking at the tree line it cannot be all that submerged?
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Erpingham on Aug 14, 2022, 09:52 AM
If you look at the Tripadvisor pictures, it's only the top left corner that seems regularly submerged.  The rest is consolidated ruins in the style of , say, Housesteads, with interpretation boards scattered around.
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Mark G on Aug 15, 2022, 07:31 AM
I fear that if Scotland did reach the point where grapes became a viable crop, they would be planting to varieties used in buckfast tonic wine * and not a Medoc or Chablis.

* note that Tonic does not denote medicinal qualities.
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Imperial Dave on Aug 15, 2022, 07:50 AM
 ;D

a bit like Sanatogen Tonic Wine (which btw I used to make professionally 12 years ago)
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Erpingham on Aug 15, 2022, 08:57 AM
Quote from: Mark G on Aug 15, 2022, 07:31 AM
I fear that if Scotland did reach the point where grapes became a viable crop, they would be planting to varieties used in buckfast tonic wine * and not a Medoc or Chablis.

* note that Tonic does not denote medicinal qualities.

At the weekend, I had to use Wikipedia to prove to disbelieving daughter and son in law that Buckfast was in Devon, not any part of Scotland  :)
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Mark G on Aug 15, 2022, 12:08 PM
I tried to convince a chap who made movies to do a road trip film of a bunch of comedy weegies on a pilgrimage to Devon to the abbey.

Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Nick Harbud on Aug 15, 2022, 01:40 PM
Has the Buckfast Abbey pilgrimage trip not already been filmed?  I seem to recall an episode of Rab C Nesbit that covered this subject.

???
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Mark G on Aug 16, 2022, 06:57 AM
It's the whole journey road movie, I was suggesting.
The abbey is just the mcguffin to get them there .  Like carlsberg at the end of ice cold in Alex (boy must they have been disappointed)
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Nick Harbud on Aug 16, 2022, 10:52 AM
Anyway, for those culturally impoverished individuals who have not seen this classic of Scottish comedy, here is the link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlLRW_MmCMw).  Be sure to catch the scene with Norman Lovett (Holly from Red Dwarf) as a monk trying to eat his soup whilst one of the other brethren is consuming a packet of crisps behind him.

8)
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: DougM on Aug 18, 2022, 06:35 AM
Quote from: Mark G on Aug 15, 2022, 07:31 AM
I fear that if Scotland did reach the point where grapes became a viable crop, they would be planting to varieties used in buckfast tonic wine * and not a Medoc or Chablis.

* note that Tonic does not denote medicinal qualities.

Nice bit of casual racism there. Going to make jokes about Irish labourers and Afro-Americans being good dancers next?

Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Justin Swanton on Aug 18, 2022, 07:00 AM
Quote from: DougM on Aug 18, 2022, 06:35 AM
Quote from: Mark G on Aug 15, 2022, 07:31 AM
I fear that if Scotland did reach the point where grapes became a viable crop, they would be planting to varieties used in buckfast tonic wine * and not a Medoc or Chablis.

* note that Tonic does not denote medicinal qualities.

Nice bit of casual racism there. Going to make jokes about Irish labourers and Afro-Americans being good dancers next?

I was thinking of a Scotsman selling a guest a cup of tea.
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Martin Smith on Aug 18, 2022, 07:12 AM
This popped up on fb today, on the subject of the submerged Roman castra....:-

" According to the comments in the original post, this caption is misleading. It's only been underwater since a reservoir project in 1949, and has been exposed intermittently since 2003".

" It is in Galicia, it is normally under water, it has been exposed by the recent drought, and the 2000 year old walls are still standing. "

Also, aerial pic of 'normal state' was added..but I'm struggling to resize it to < 5KB as an attachment.
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Martin Smith on Aug 18, 2022, 07:37 AM
This one....
Title: Re: Drought Reveal Roman Camp In Spain
Post by: Erpingham on Aug 18, 2022, 08:07 AM
Quotethe 2000 year old walls are still standing.

This is a bit like saying the walls of Housesteads are still standing.  These are clearly excavated remains consolidated by an antiqities service at some point.