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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Erpingham on Jan 09, 2018, 03:09 PM

Title: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Erpingham on Jan 09, 2018, 03:09 PM
How Waterford won its civic sword: the battle of Ballymacaw. (https://www.academia.edu/35007211/2016_How_Waterford_won_its_civic_sword_the_battle_of_Ballymacaw._)

An interesting tale of international networking and warfare at the time of the Wars of the Roses, featuring urban militia, naval operations and the perils of drinking whiskey when you should be keeping watch.

Title: Re: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Anton on Jan 11, 2018, 10:54 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that, thank you.  We often forget about the galleys in this period.
Title: Re: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Erpingham on Jan 11, 2018, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Anton on Jan 11, 2018, 10:54 AM
We often forget about the galleys in this period.

Yes, there is probably an entire book on naval operations in the Irish Sea and the Scottish Isles in the medieval and renaissance periods to be written.
Title: Re: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Anton on Jan 12, 2018, 03:22 PM
And what a book that would be, I'd like to think someone's already at it.
Title: Re: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Erpingham on Jan 12, 2018, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Anton on Jan 12, 2018, 03:22 PM
And what a book that would be, I'd like to think someone's already at it.

Me too.
Title: Re: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Jim Webster on Jan 12, 2018, 06:41 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on Jan 12, 2018, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Anton on Jan 12, 2018, 03:22 PM
And what a book that would be, I'd like to think someone's already at it.

Me too.
What we often forget now is that the Irish sea was a crossroads. Certainly in the 9th century onward, for the Viking world, with the Kingdom of York and Kingdom of Dublin, the easiest way to get between them is via Stainmore (A66) down to Morecambe Bay and from there to Ireland. Galloway and the Scottish Isles are easily accessible to the North and the Isle of Man does sit in the centre of it all
Title: Re: York, Lancaster and Ireland
Post by: Erpingham on Jan 13, 2018, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Jim Webster on Jan 12, 2018, 06:41 PM

What we often forget now is that the Irish sea was a crossroads. Certainly in the 9th century onward, for the Viking world, with the Kingdom of York and Kingdom of Dublin, the easiest way to get between them is via Stainmore (A66) down to Morecambe Bay and from there to Ireland. Galloway and the Scottish Isles are easily accessible to the North and the Isle of Man does sit in the centre of it all

Add to that routes between Ireland and Wales and the southern English connections, especially with Bristol.