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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on Jul 24, 2025, 05:48 AM

Title: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Imperial Dave on Jul 24, 2025, 05:48 AM
https://www.medievalists.net/2025/07/medieval-diets-horsemeat-was-still-on-the-menu/

Shergar burgers....
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Martin Smith on Jul 24, 2025, 07:09 PM
Still available in Belgium...Vlammse carbonade (or similar).  🐴🐴🐴
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Imperial Dave on Jul 25, 2025, 04:47 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Jim Webster on Jul 25, 2025, 05:47 AM
I used to comment that I'd eaten horse more recently than I'd ridden on one, but then thanks to Tesco and the other supermarkets with their burger scandal, most people can say that
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Imperial Dave on Jul 25, 2025, 06:02 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Ian61 on Jul 25, 2025, 07:13 AM
Never understood the horsemeat problem. Not using it seems a waste.
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Andreas Johansson on Jul 25, 2025, 07:48 AM
Quote from: Jim Webster on Jul 25, 2025, 05:47 AMI used to comment that I'd eaten horse more recently than I'd ridden on one, but then thanks to Tesco and the other supermarkets with their burger scandal, most people can say that
Hm. Despite living in a country where eating horsemeat is a considerably more common than in the Anglosphere, and certainly being no sort of equestrian, I think I've  ridden a horse more recently than I've eaten one. Assuming, of course, that I haven't fallen prey to some similar scandal recently.
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Jim Webster on Jul 25, 2025, 08:31 AM
Quote from: Ian61 on Jul 25, 2025, 07:13 AMNever understood the horsemeat problem. Not using it seems a waste.

Because horse meat apparently featured heavily in religious feasts in the pagan period. When Christianity arrived in 'England', feasting on horse meat was discouraged.
When I was in Iceland I was impressed with their attitude to horse rearing. Effectively they were run as suckler herds with the nicest offspring going for riding and the others going for meat.
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Nick Harbud on Jul 25, 2025, 08:46 AM
In 1916 an Anglo-Indian army at Kut in Iraq was forced to surrender.  The Turkish victors were somewhat dismayed that recovery of captured artillery pieces would prove to be difficult on account of the garrison having eaten the draught teams.

 :-\
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Erpingham on Jul 25, 2025, 09:03 AM
While in the UK, the horsemeat scandal was about eating horse, elsewhere in the EU it was about mislabelling and putting unfit meat into the human food chain. The EU imports a lot of horsemeat from countries such as Argentina and Canada and smaller quantities from the UK. While it is true that the original issue with horsemeat eating was condemnation by the church as a pagan practice, this seems to have long gone, even in Catholic European countries.
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Cantabrigian on Jul 25, 2025, 09:08 AM
Quote from: Andreas JohanssonI think I've  ridden a horse more recently than I've eaten one.

Presumably not the same horse?
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Imperial Dave on Jul 25, 2025, 10:03 AM
You hope ride before eat not the other way around
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Andreas Johansson on Jul 25, 2025, 10:25 AM
Quote from: Cantabrigian on Jul 25, 2025, 09:08 AM
Quote from: Andreas JohanssonI think I've  ridden a horse more recently than I've eaten one.

Presumably not the same horse?
One does not ride dead horses, one flogs them.
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Erpingham on Jul 25, 2025, 10:30 AM
Quote from: Andreas Johansson on Jul 25, 2025, 10:25 AMOne does not ride dead horses, one flogs them.

Mainly to the EU, presumably.
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Duncan Head on Jul 25, 2025, 10:49 AM
Quote from: Andreas Johansson on Jul 25, 2025, 10:25 AMOne does not ride dead horses...
Binky?
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: Imperial Dave on Jul 25, 2025, 11:39 AM
Quote from: Erpingham on Jul 25, 2025, 10:30 AM
Quote from: Andreas Johansson on Jul 25, 2025, 10:25 AMOne does not ride dead horses, one flogs them.

Mainly to the EU, presumably.


boom tish!
Title: Re: Medieval horse meat...
Post by: DBS on Jul 26, 2025, 08:32 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on Jul 25, 2025, 10:49 AMBinky?

Nope, Binky was flesh and blood, as explained in Reaper Man:

Death's pale horse looked up from its oats and gave a little whinny of greeting. The horse's name was Binky. He was a real horse. Death had tried fiery steeds and skeletal horses in the past, and found them impractical, especially the fiery ones, which tended to set light to their own bedding and stand in the middle of it looking embarrassed.