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General Category => Army Research => Topic started by: proximocoal on Jul 20, 2025, 08:39 AM

Title: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: proximocoal on Jul 20, 2025, 08:39 AM
Hi all,

I am interested in painting an army for, and learning more about, theLatin Empire at Constantinople which DBA calls Romanian Franks. Does anyone know where I can find more information for both army and history please?
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Jim Webster on Jul 20, 2025, 09:13 AM
You are about to open one serious can of worms :-) ;)
David Nicolle has an Osprey out on the 4th crusade which started it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fourth-Crusade-1202-04-betrayal-Byzantium-ebook/dp/B0BLLWLD34

Wiki has a history of the Latin Empire  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Empire
Which should show you just how many rabbit holes you can disappear down  8)

Two books well worth reading are part of a series
https://search.library.wisc.edu/digital/ACIIU62AEG4C5T8F

Volume II: The later Crusades, 1189-1311 / Wolff, R. L.

A history of the crusades. Volume 3, The fourteenth and fifteenth centuries
Kenneth Meyer Setton, Harry Williams Hazard (eds.)

I've only ever seen ( and purchased immediately) Volume 3.


Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Duncan Head on Jul 20, 2025, 06:00 PM
The Latins in the Levant: A History of Frankish Greece (1204-1566)https://www.amazon.co.uk/Latins-Levant-History-Frankish-1204-1566/dp/B008GNWD2Q/ (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Latins-Levant-History-Frankish-1204-1566/dp/B008GNWD2Q/) is a 1908 history available in a paperback reprint.

Alfred Duggan's Lord Geoffrey's Fancy is a historical novel set in the Latin Empire.
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Jim Webster on Jul 21, 2025, 05:32 AM
Quote from: Duncan Head on Jul 20, 2025, 06:00 PMThe Latins in the Levant: A History of Frankish Greece (1204-1566)https://www.amazon.co.uk/Latins-Levant-History-Frankish-1204-1566/dp/B008GNWD2Q/ (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Latins-Levant-History-Frankish-1204-1566/dp/B008GNWD2Q/) is a 1908 history available in a paperback reprint.

Alfred Duggan's Lord Geoffrey's Fancy is a historical novel set in the Latin Empire.

Just to second the recommendation of Alfred Duggan's Lord Geoffrey's Fancy
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Swampster on Jul 21, 2025, 01:48 PM
For painting

https://www.hubert-herald.nl/ByzantiumArms.htm#LatinEmpire has the various emperors' coats of arms.

Wappenwiki https://wappenwiki.org/index.php/Latin_Empire has heraldry for various parts of the Empire. Clicking on the _name_ (not the shield) of some of the vassals e.g. Pricipality of Achaea may give the arms of other ruling families and vassals further down the pecking order.
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Duncan Head on Jul 21, 2025, 01:58 PM
Wasn't there a Slingshot article on heraldry of the Latin Empire? Part of Ian Sumner's "Arms of the Crusaders" series? That would be going a fair way back, though.
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Erpingham on Jul 21, 2025, 02:18 PM
It might be worth looking at some articles by Dr Juho Wilksman. He has written a lot about warfare of this period in Greece and the Aegean.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juho-Wilskman
https://juhowilskman.academia.edu/research#papers

There is a lot of common ground between these but some things are available on one and not the other.



Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: proximocoal on Jul 21, 2025, 02:43 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on Jul 21, 2025, 01:58 PMWasn't there a Slingshot article on heraldry of the Latin Empire? Part of Ian Sumner's "Arms of the Crusaders" series? That would be going a fair way back, though.

That's interesting, an excuse to pick up the digital back catalogue
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: Swampster on Jul 21, 2025, 03:10 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on Jul 21, 2025, 01:58 PMWasn't there a Slingshot article on heraldry of the Latin Empire? Part of Ian Sumner's "Arms of the Crusaders" series? That would be going a fair way back, though.

Issue 104.
Some differ from the Wappenwiki page so you pays your money and takes your choice.

P.
Title: Re: Latin Empire at Constantinople (Romanian Franks)
Post by: stevenneate on Jul 22, 2025, 03:11 AM
Quote from: Duncan Head on Jul 21, 2025, 01:58 PMWasn't there a Slingshot article on heraldry of the Latin Empire? Part of Ian Sumner's "Arms of the Crusaders" series? That would be going a fair way back, though.

Ask Holly, as he is reading the Slingshot back catalogue!