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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Duncan Head on Aug 25, 2021, 10:24 PM

Title: Violent death in the prehistoric Atacama desert
Post by: Duncan Head on Aug 25, 2021, 10:24 PM
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/human-remains-chilean-desert-reveal-its-first-farmers-fought-death-180978460/
Title: Re: Violent death in the prehistoric Atacama desert
Post by: Jim Webster on Aug 27, 2021, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on Aug 25, 2021, 10:24 PM
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/human-remains-chilean-desert-reveal-its-first-farmers-fought-death-180978460/

somebody had a rough paper round!
Title: Re: Violent death in the prehistoric Atacama desert
Post by: DBS on Aug 27, 2021, 07:08 PM
It does sometimes surprise me that so many archaeologists are themselves surprised by the fact that ancient man had such a propensity to bash in his neighbour's skull for the sake of scarce resources.  The curse of modern liberal and social studies, I suppose...
Title: Re: Violent death in the prehistoric Atacama desert
Post by: Jim Webster on Aug 28, 2021, 09:15 AM
Quote from: DBS on Aug 27, 2021, 07:08 PM
It does sometimes surprise me that so many archaeologists are themselves surprised by the fact that ancient man had such a propensity to bash in his neighbour's skull for the sake of scarce resources.  The curse of modern liberal and social studies, I suppose...

I suspect it says more about modern attitudes than that of the contemporaries of the victim.
But reading any court report from before 1600 in England shows that lethal violence was probably more common than it is now
Title: Re: Violent death in the prehistoric Atacama desert
Post by: Ade G on Aug 28, 2021, 09:37 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on Aug 28, 2021, 09:15 AM
Quote from: DBS on Aug 27, 2021, 07:08 PM
It does sometimes surprise me that so many archaeologists are themselves surprised by the fact that ancient man had such a propensity to bash in his neighbour's skull for the sake of scarce resources.  The curse of modern liberal and social studies, I suppose...

I suspect it says more about modern attitudes than that of the contemporaries of the victim.
But reading any court report from before 1600 in England shows that lethal violence was probably more common than it is now

Can I recommend "War Before Civilisation" Lawrence H Keeley. It does a decent job of nullifying the myth of the peaceful savage in history
Title: Re: Violent death in the prehistoric Atacama desert
Post by: Erpingham on Aug 29, 2021, 09:14 AM
I'd also recommend Mortal Wounds by Martin Smith, who has a lot on the archaeology of early violence.